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votings: Excellent  feedback: i am also belong to saiva pillaimar community. i reasd the origin pillai.
i just come to know about as we are came from north to south (saurastra region gujarat) it is true or not. please write the article in tamil language. because i did not know about our community. i just want to know about our community. if any books available for us to know about our origin. please contact me with my e-mail.

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Dear Sir, Thanks for your response.
Wh have to thanks our
TN CM Miss. Jayalalitha for built and open the Manimantapam for our caste's greatest leader V.O.C.in Tirunelveli .It can help for future genaration to knowabout this Dedicated leader.
I remind you
Mr.Chenbagaraman Pillai also belongs to Nanjil nattu Vellalar,but born in Tirvandrum,was thefreedom fighter.He was first man to uttered the word "JAI HIND",he metHitler to fight against British.Also he threw Bomb at St.George Fort byusing the EMPTON submarine on that time.But he is not rememberd much inour political history .
Here in Chennai I saw lot of wall hoarding tothanks CM for her gesture to built a manimantapam for VOC.I came to knowfrom this ,there are lot of Vellala orgs in chennai also.Fine ,but theycould have to tune for upliftment our caste in any way .Think Best, with regards Ramalingam.M.

Hello Thanks for your immediate response ..that too from a great namw like GMAIL..i THINK THIS IS THE UPGRADE YOU HAVE MADE YOURSELF FROM YAHOO TO  GMAIL!!..I TOO INTERESTED IN UPGRADING TO GOLD FROM SILVER...BUT AFTER SEEING THE SERVICE   REPEATING THE SAME OLD LIST WITH ADDITIONS THEN AND THERE ..I JUST DROPPED THE IDEA..

IT TOOK ME 2 HOURS TO SCAN THRO YOUR EXCEL SPREADSHEET //How difficult it is for a novice or expert like me .to read a single line using down / up arros,left ,right arrows then cull out the details..and finally coming to doubt whether the matrimony is for the 4 year or 5 year old  grandson/grandadaughter  of  Dr Virudhagiainathan(sl no186)or Dr Sundaram(sl no of16 murugan) REPEATING THE CASES OF THOSE WHO ARE ALREADY MARRIED IS IN A BAD TASTE ,,AND WASTES OUR OWN TIME AND MONEY.SO I  AM SORRY THAT I COULD NOT UPGRADE AS REQUESTED BY YOU ..R KUNJITHAPATHM. rkpatham@vsnl.com

Dear Sir
Vazhga valamudan
I sent another mail asking for some boys details..in he meanwhile whie I find that my daughter name appears as per no 491..details have got changed..it shall be changed a s 491 Karkathar geetha BE MS 23-10-79 Software Engineer /california/usa. Kindly review and respnd Thanks
R Kunjithapatham,Silver member ,0 98404 29079,044 26152187 
kunjitha@md5.vsnl.net.in

Our Reply:
SIR
YOUR GIRLS DATA CHANGED 1 YEAR BACK. I CANT UNDERSTAND YOU. I UPDATED UR DAUGHTERS DATA 1 YEAR BACK AS SOON AS U TOLD ME TO DO SO. NOW U CHECK THE SITE
IT IS NOT EVEN CODE 491 YOUR DAUGHTER IS AT CODE 501 PLS CHECK UR END -PKP

Dear Sir,
I appreciate ur dedicated and selfless service to the community. i would like to express my views and offer some details to u. kindly send me ur mail id.  u have mentioned about Annandha Ranga Pillai of pondicherry, as a vellala. actualy he is a Yadhava not a vellala.  like that there are lot of scholars in Nangil Nadu Marumakkal Vellala like Kavimony Desiga Vinayaga Pillai ( I am distantly related to him, Ammarar Geeva, kALAIVANAR N.S.k., Jaihind Chenbagaraman.  Nangilnadu Vellala's are Forward community.  In fact Tirunelveli Vellal's are considered to be inferior to us and so we normally avoid marrying saiva Vellala or makkalvazhi vellal's. In kanyakumari district Mrumakkal Vellala's are consider supperior and the present Director of DRDO & Bramhos Missile Program Mr.Sivathanu Pillai is a Nanjilnadu MArumakkal Vellala.  Actuly MArumakkal Vellala's are from Pathamadai in Tirunelveli District. They were considered very close to MArthandavarma of Travancore kingdom.  There are more than 18 lakhs Vellala's in kerala (drkanam@...)
with regards,
m.ramesh MICROMACRAMESH@...


dear,
thanks for your more positive response on my suggesstion. it shows how great efforts you are showing on developing this site.GREAT! CHEERS UP!
I would like to request you one thing, do you have any total printed editions of current varans.it might also be helpful for people who resides in India too. Bcoz thats what every one is looking for.
thne one more about the Great pillai's... I will be happy if you cateogrise as Legends from saiva like that....there you can also include all personalities (even little )in all locations...it will also be helpful on choosing varans from one to another region as to identify the group or their culture...may i right? I am not very sure whether it will be helpful or not...if u need any technical support pls let me know i can talk to my guys or brothers who all are in software technology...for example, my Grand father is a freedom fighter, who was well known in our region...that could be easy for others to relate suitable varans to our people...

pls let me know your ideas, that will be fine. Dr.S.Manikanda ulagamuthu from Adelaide, Australia.

Dear webmaster,
i m really wondering when i noticed that you havent included Vellalan chettiyar (sub-caste in Saiva community) in your specified search.....I beleive it will be useful for the people who really prefers to find a match in Vellalan chetty to or from.

I hope this will help you to find the possibility to update your engine.

cherrs,
Dr.S.Manikanda ulagamuthu from Adelaide, Australia.

Hello PKP,

 
Nice to read your mail and am happy to see the links in our saivaneri site. I will make a link to saivaneri site soon from my site.
 
See you
Tiruneelveli
 
Note: I dont want to highlight my name as such. Am basically a scholar, doing research in Mathematics in one of the premier institutes. Am pleased to see your service to our people. Basically i dont have an idiom to appreciate your service. Anyway, in other hand its our duty to make our people to prosper. Most of the people are still happy with "Kallurapillai Kadai, Vadai and Kali" Our people have to come out from Tinnavely.
 Dear Sir,
In the current edition Kumudham Mr.Nellaikannan said Mr.Jeyakanthan, Gnana Peet award winner,
Tamil writer,is also belongs to Pillai mar.In this he said Mr.Jeyakanthan  once said in a meeting if any situation arises
him to include any caste name after his name  he will behappily put "pillai ",His own caste.  Also u included many of 
the names which I have sent earlier .But Mr.Nellai Kannan,Why., Also Mr.Jeevandham ,Great communist leader ,known 
for his simplicity and dedication . Also if you can please delete " Makkal vazhi" pillai marfrom Nanjil Nadan's description.
Because I am afraid he dislike this. Iam also from his native village .There is some problem between Makkal 
and Marumakkal vazhi pillaimar. with regards Ram  (muthayaram@...)

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Constructing site for our caste is most welcomeful effort,
I would like to argue with Mr. RAMESH MADHAVAN.

Who told here his caste-sub sect Marumakkal vazhi in Nanjil nadu is superior than others like Makkal vazhi and Saiva  pillai mar.

That is not true,there is not like that Only they were pannaiyars-Landlord and also in majority there.
My father told me they belongs to tribe and moved to country lands about 300 years .After cultivated lands they also called them as Nanjil nattu vellalas.

Makkal vazhi pillaimars hate all the traditions of marumakkal vazhi thayathhu.Mr.Ramesh please read your relative Kavimani's literature "MARUMAKKAL VALI MANMIUM" then come to conclusion superior or  inferior
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WEBMASTER REPLY:
Please do not fight for SUPERIOR or INFERIOR. Today's world we should be united and feel equal of each other. I would like to see all PILLAI community joining together to create a better VOICE for the PILLAI community.

Dear Mr.Pasupathi K Pillai,

I am a non-veg vellalar, my home country is Sri Lanka but right now im in the United Kingdom. My father's parents are a village near Thuraiyur in Trichy, Tamil Nadu.

Basically our community is called the "Aarunaattu Vellalar". There is a sangam called Aarunaattu Vellalar Sangam in Sri Lanka, for the particular community.

I am interested in finding how this section of the Dravidian caste system evolved and its history. I tried to find some information about this in the net, but I was unsuccessful.

I had a look through your website and hope that you could help me with these doubts.

Your help is very much appreciated

Thiyagu
UK

WEBMASTER REPLIES TO THE ABOVE MAIL:-

Dear Sir,
It has been observed that in india caste system is very old and evolving all the times.
You may be knowing there are Sivakalai Pillaimar a caste born from Sivakalai Taluk
You may also know this Sivakalai Pillaimar is born from Kottai Pillaimar Parapmpara - caste that lived in around Kottai's -Forts especially to help the Raja's. So this Kottai Pillaimar is now allmost extinct.

It is said that when a big Flood affected the Sivagalai Thaluk, the Kottai Pillaimar women did not cross the flood by raising their saree - pavaadai. The ladied who raised their pavaadai and ran for life to the other side of the Flood are now Sivagalai Pillaimar, now totally transferred and happily living along the Tuticorin District - Mudivaithanendhal. They are colloquially called as "Sevalai Pillai" = Sivakalai Thaluk marvi Sevalai Aayitru.

Now as they predominantly live in Mudivai Than Enthal - a small village in between the Tuticorn - Tirunelveli Highways. They are mostly seeking the Tamilnadu Police or Indain Army Defense services. They prefer uniformed services. They are still following matrilineal system.
After marriage husband stays at wife's house, and mostly obeys wife's and  mamiyar's orders.

They call this as "Meenakshi Rule" - "Madurai Rule" If Husband rules the house it is called as "Chidambaram Rule" - means Chidambaram Sivan rules the house.

So Tamils, Dravidians are a great people, dividing and mutating all the times.

Thats why in my treatises http://saivaneri.org/who_are_saiva_vellalars_or_saivapillais.htm there, i write that in tamilnadu still new cstes are formed, new distinctions are made.

Soon we will see Sivakasi Nadars, Virudhunagar Nadars  as a Separate caste.

So reg. the Aru Naatu Pillai I can only say there must be some history. I dont know till now
As soon as I know it, I will mail you. You may also know 8 Veetil Pillaimar from Thiruvangur Thevasthanam It is still esisting in Kerala Esp. along the KAnyakumari Kerala Border you can see this 8 veetil pillaimar. Its all about groupism and clan dynasty.

8 veetil pillai ruled the Thiruvithangur orTravancore Samasthanam, out of which there are lot of stories of cheating and back stabbing to gain power of the Malayala Nadu. In the Padmanabha Palace, near Nagercoil, the Travancore Samasthanam stories drawn as painting by the Great Raja Ravi Varma, himself a king. His paintings are still kept there.

They say about the family feuds between these 8 veetil pillai, and how they poison the king, etc, to capture power and position. So there must be some stories for 6 Nattu pillai also.

I will certainly tell you, just wait for few more weeks.

Thanks for writing to us, Keep in touch

Vazga Dravidam!

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Mr. & Mrs. Pasupathi K. Pillai
 

- Original Message - From: <sethukavi@...> Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 5:24 PM
Subject: Procedure for Vizhakeedu kalyanam or Vilakidu Kalyanam விளக்கீடு கல்யாணம்
Dear Sir,  I am Saiva pillai from Tirunelveli presentily working in Indore. I want  to know the procedure for doing "Vizhakeedu kalyanam" or Vilakidu Kalyanam விளக்கீடு கல்யாணம் for my daughter who is 8 years old. I got your mail after going through you saivaneri.org site. Expecting your favourable reply. With regards, S.chinnathambi

webmaster says: Dear Sir, I do not know abt this.First Time hearing about this Please tell me abt this. My wife says, Saiva Pillai don't do this thing., while Karkarthar do it. It is grandly celebrated like a real marriage with fanfare, invitation, saappadu, moi etc. It cant be a REAL MARRIAGE, may just a procedure to inform the girl about her vulnarablity. Also during SADANGU [Poopunitha neeraatt Vizha] the same thing happens, the girl marries a DUMMY BOY during the ceremony. Can you kindly send me an elaborate write up in html or text? i will publish it at our site..

>Dear Sir,> >>Only Karkarthaar Pillai will conduct this function between the age 7 and 9 for their daughters. While i have lived in Tenkasi I have seen this function in and around the areas of Tenkasi
Yours TNV tnvallinayaham@..

On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 vijayalakshmi@... wrote :
on By birth all Indians are Siva Manitharkal. Particularly birth in Tamilnadu all Tamilans are by nature Sivan Adiyars.By way of getting Upathesam from a Saiva Guru about PanchaAtcharam allare become sivanAdiyars. In this juncture I take Upathesam from Kayanapuri AAtheenam Sri La Sri Rajalinga ManickavasagaSwamigal at Koonampatti.638 056. My parent are sivan adiyar. My Younger sister is also Sivan Adiyar. Totally my family of four members getting upadesam of Intheluttu Manthiram from  Kalyanapuri AAtheenam. So please help me to choose a bridegroom of aged 26 to 30 as pure vegetarian, and i will donate defenetely after finding the life partner . Please consider my case favourably accordingly. Thanks,
P.Vijayalakshmi, B.Sc D/O Ponnusamy Pillai, 16, A ... Street, Kovilpatti - 628 501
Thoothugudi- District TamilNadu [address not shown for security]

SIVAME SELVAM             SIVAME MUKTHI

YOUR FAVOURABLE REPLE IS EXPECTED. Thoothugudi- Disstrict


Hello Sir, My parents are Tanjore Saiva Pillai. We are now settled in Penang, Malaysia. I am a Divorcee, I am searching for Girls from India, can you help me?
vpaneer2000@...

Hello sir,  This is Dr.Raja. I have registered with saivaneri for an alliance. The boy's name is Lakshmanan.S. I have also credited with Rs.200 for you in your account(ICICI). My account number is xxxx. The other details about the boy are given below. I have also sent you an SMS regarding this.  Regards, Raja  

From: Sharusha Pillay To: pasug@..Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 1:05 PM

Hello, I am a Schollar at the University of Natal In Pietermaritzbug, South Africa. For some time I've been seeking family in Tanjore, India. I am the 3rd generation in South Africa. My grandfather's name was A.S. Pillay, I only know that he was from Tanjore. I want to get in touch with, if the is, family over there. I would very much appreciate it if you could help me in locating any family there. I will e-mail you any more that I can find out from my mum. And could you tell me, what is the difference between "Pillay" and "Pillai" if there is any.
Thank you so much the enlightening information that you have posted on the web!
Hope to hear from you soon! You can also e-mail me at sharusha_pillay@..

From: "Kathiresan Shanmuganathan" <arunadevikathir@...> Subject: saivaneri.org – Amazing!!!
Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2004 04:44:36 +0000

Hello Mrs. & Mr. Pasupathi, I just happened to see your website for the first time. Astonished. This requires a lot of dedication and determination and I see the same in the site. In fact as a hardcore Thirunelveli Siva Vella Pillai, I wanted to create one like this and got good encouragements from friends and relatives, but did not have the time and dedication to do it. I whole heartedly appreciate your effort in putting this website together.  I like a lot of contents in the site, one of most important ones that I liked was “The Great Pillai Gallery”. Request you to continue to do your services for OUR community. I have joined as a life member. I have also forwarded the link to all my friends and relatives so that they can also join the club and benefit out your efforts. Good Luck and keep more and more of this coming. Hope we have more enhancements to the site too.

 

Kathiresan Shanmuganathan

Aurora, Illinois, U.S.A

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full_name: RAMESH MADHAVAN via: Search Engine votings: Okay feedback: Dear Sir,
I aprreciate ur dedicated and selfless service to the community. i would like to exprees my views and offer some details to u. kindly send me ur mail id.  u have mentioned about Annandha Ranga Pillai of pondicherry, as a vellala. actualy he is a Yadhava not a vellala.  like that there are lot of scholars in Nangil Nadu Marumakkal Vellala like Kavimony Desiga Vinayaga Pillai ( I am distantly related to him, Ammarar Geeva, kALAIVANAR N.S.k., Jaihind Chenbagaraman.  Nangilnadu Vellala's are Forward community.  In fact Tirunelveli Vellal's are considered to be inferior to us and so we normally avoid marrying saiva Vellala or makkalvazhi vellal's. In kanyakumari district Mrumakkal Vellala's are consider supperior and the present Director of DRDO & Bramhos Missile Program Mr.Sivathanu Pillai is a Nanjilnadu MArumakkal Vellala.  Actuly MArumakkal Vellala's are from Pathamadai in Tirunelveli District. They were considered very close to MArthandavarma of Travancore kingdom.  There are more than 18 lakhs Vellala's in kerala (drkanam@....) with regards, m.ramesh


I visited the site saivaneri and found it excellent,useful and also innovative.  - RmK.Visvanathan  -Owner,  RmKV Textiles, Tirunelveli & Chennai



Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2003 02:15:13 +0530  From: "D.A.Sankar" <ttn_datex@...>
dear sirs, please SUPPORT our tamilnadu saiva vellaler sangam & vellaler kootamaippuu & v.o.c mantrams for our people DEVELOPMENT. thanking you D.A.SANKAR STATE GENERAL SECRETRY, TAMILNADU SAVA VELLALER SANGAM
V.O.C SOCIAL WELFARE TRUST D.ARUMUGAM PILLAI TEXTILES 100,W.G.C .ROAD TUTICORIN-628002

I am Veerabhadran Swamy son of late shri V.M.K.Swamy-Advisor, Minister of science & technology. N.Delhi. we belong to Tirunelveli SAIVA PILLAI community. Currently we residing at Mumbai for past 5 years. I appreciate your services!   

Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 02:11:15 +0530 From: "D.A.Sankar" <dagroups@..>
dear sirs, vanakkam.unkal panikaluku valthukkal.unkal ungle daughter mappillai mr.ganesh udan nan londonil thanki
ullan.unkal mama mappilai patti ennidam visaritha pinthan marriage panninar. en anuppikren. en -v.o.c., t.n.saiva vellaler sangam,saiva samaya pani,tamil pani--akiyavai sirakka unkal allosanai support thevai. mikka nantrikal d.a.sankar

Dear Sir,
By GODS grace and all your wishes my Daughters marriage is fixed and the engagement is over. The marriage is on 12th september.The boys details once came in WWW.SAIVANERI.ORG Thank you for all informations received from you. I am now looking aliance for my son and I would be obliged if you can send details of BRIDES.I will send my contribution for this noble cause as done before. Thanking you.         N.Veerabahu, Chennai.

Hi,
Thank you so much for the new year wishes and the greeting!
I'm highly appreciative of your quick responses and genuine willingness to help at all times.
I came to know about your website through sulekha website recommendations. When I saw something like "tamil website" it caught my eyes instantly. That's it!  Your site is just great. It has so much to offer! As for varan details, my kids are just in their teens & late teens but I'd certainly need some varan help for my niece or nephew out in Bombay. Last but not the least, sitting at this DISTANCE - all the TAMIL QUOTES AND LYRICS which I get to read gives me a "close to home" feeling and I love reading them! Attached is my resume for your consideration.
Thanks and good bye,  Kala Vaneeswaran Aiyar, New Jersey, USA


Hi,
I like your effort. Keep it up. I maintain a very simple web site at
http://www.geocities.com/nayanmars/where you can find lyrics for a number of thevaram songs as well as rudram, purusha suktham, etc. in Tamil and English. If you find these useful, please add Presently at from your sites. In the near future, I plan to add files containing meanings in English for a number of them.
Thanks.  Mr. Subramanian, New Jersey, USA

Vanakkam, Your site is very very good. I improved and change the URL for SMS  http://smsuk.org.uk officially SMS is  going to launch on this Sunday. Can I include your Presently at in SMS Presently at? Nanri -LONDON Saiva Anbar!

Atlanta    From: "sethu ram" <ramus29@.....> To: pasug@..   Subject: Great Effort !!!
Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2001 04:01:25 +0000 12/04/2001 Dear Mr. Pasupathi, This is Sethu, currently working in the USA. I'm basically from Tirunelveli Dist. Looking for my life partner. I've added my profile yesterday. First of all, I like to say 'THANK YOU' from my bottom of the heart for this Great service. I want to contribute donations to this site. Please e-mail me the details. 'Good Luck'
Regards Sethu.,. USA


Sir,
I visited saivaneri site .It is really wonderful and I was in search of a site like that for a long time.Really  it is going to help me in finding a groom for my sister.I am sure many people are going to be benifited like me. This is really a great service.-geetha sundararajan <geethasundararaj@...> works at WIPRO



Dear Thiru Pasupathi
I thank you very much for your mails and immediate responses. After talking to you I have contacted about 10 of my relatives and informed them about your creative and useful website. They may also contact you in course of time.
Personally I am donating a sum of Rs500/= as token of my appreciation. I will be sending the cheque tomorrow. After receipt of the cheque pl confirm it. 
--Dr. TA Siva Subramaniam, Anna Inst. of Mgmt, Chennai, Guindy

I am S.Varadarajan, Chennai based tirunelveli Saiva Pillai. Recently I got the opportunity to see your Web site-saivaneri.org. I would like to thank you and Thiru.Chidambaranathan for your commendable service in bringing out the details of grooms and brides in one cluster. The services rendered by both of you are commendable and incomparable. We appreciate with our full heart and our best wishes to continue your creditable service which would be an immense help to every one of us. Hats off to both of you sirs. my email is emailsvr@...

Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 02:11:15 +0530 From: "D.A.Sankar" <dagroups@..>
dear sirs, vanakkam.unkal panikaluku valthukkal.unkal ungle daughter mappillai mr.ganesh udan nan londonil thanki
ullan.unkal mama mappilai patti ennidam visaritha pinthan marriage panninar. en anuppikren. en -v.o.c., t.n.saiva vellaler sangam,saiva samaya pani,tamil pani--akiyavai sirakka unkal allosanai support thevai. mikka nantrikal d.a.sankar

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