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Who are Saiva Vellalar's? or Saiva Pillai's or Karkathar's or simple Vellalar Pillai's? or Pillay's?
சைவப் பிள்ளை என்றால் யார்? அல்லது பிள்ளைமார் வரலாறு



article by webmaster Pasupathi K Pillai
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Saiva Vellalars are vegetarians-Forward Caste people, [as per TN Govt]
their 'varieties' listed below

Tirunelveli [Thirunelveli] Saiva Pillai
They call themselves very pure. But this doesn't stop them to intermarry with all other types of Saiva Vellalars. Mostly TSP's from Kadayam, Tenkasi, Tirunelveli District, Alwarkurichi, Tuticorin District [Thoothukkudi], Kutralam, Papanasam, Ilanji, Kulasekarapattinam claim themselves as SUPERIOR to other Saiva Pillai's. These TSP's are usually Pannaiyars along the Tamirabarani River Side. Scholars are more here. They follow Saiva Agamas சைவ ஆகமங்கள்:wikipedia says
Tanjore [Thanjavoor] Saiva Pillai
Again some kind of "purity" here. Situated along the river Kaveri, these Saiva Pillai's Thali [mangal sutra], Food habits, Marriage Rituals are very different from that of Tirunelveli Saiva Pillai's. So normally a TSP will prefer TSP. Eulogized by Sakithya Academy Award winning Tamil Prose Writer Thi. Janakiraman [Thi.Jaa], in his Novel "Sembaruththi" [the story of Sokkalinga Pillai of Kumbakonam]
"Normal, Simple" All Saiva Pillai
Mostly located along river beds like Tanjore, Tirunelveli, Yazhppaanam (Srilanka). Type of duties varied as Pannaiyars, Landlords, Zamindhars, Intelligent Farmers, Kanakku Pillais, Kings, Mantris, Businessmen, Poets, Prose writers, National Freedom Fighters, Directors, Doctors, Engineers, Planners and now LARGELY SOFTWARE ENGINEERS.
Karkathar or Karkarthar or Karalar or Karaikkathar or Karaikattu Vellalar

Again these people claim that they are SUPERIOR to other Saiva Pillai's. Because they ruled most of the water bodies. The tamil meaning of karkathar is the folks who guarded the "kar" -the clouds -thus maintained the fertile soil -thus they are Vellalars or Karalars mostly they are landlords -till today -their Thali, Marriage customs slightly differ from other saiva community, but still they intermarry.
Also called as KARALARS, they have GOTHRAM like the BRAMINS to avoid marrying in the same blood. All other Saiva and Asaiva Pillai dont have GOTHRAM. So All other Pillai call their GOTHRAM as "SIVA GOTHRAM". Mahakavi Kambar greatly praised these people in "திருக்கை வழக்கம்" read that here

GOTHRAMS OF KARKATHAR OR KARALAR

   
 


Karalar [காராளர்] is the term used to denote the Karkathar community from very early times. Manimekhalai, one of the five great Epics in the Tamil language, makes use of them twice in the phrase, Karalar Sanbai meaning the city Sikali of the Karkathar. Sanbai is one of the 12 names of Sikali made immortal by saint Gnanasambanda in his song sung before the Pandiya prince of Madurai, saying that he hailed from Sikali the holy place with twelve names. It was called Sanbai because of the wild growth of the elephant grass, Sanbankorai in the place.

Sikali was then a seat of the Karkathar and so was called Karalar Sanbai in the epic. The history of Tamil literature and the Saiva religion tell us that the city was the headquarters or the capital city of the Saiva religion from very
early times up to the fifteenth century A.D. The term Karalar means, those engaged in agriculture; it has had the same connotation through the centuries even up to the present day. Kar meant the steel blade of the plough, or
ploughshare; Kar-anmai meant the utilization of the ploughshare, i.e., agriculture; and Kar-alar meant those who were masters of the ploughshare and they were naturally Karkathar.


ஒப்பந்த ஆவணமாக அமைந்துள்ள இப்பதிவைக் கல்வெட்டு, 'எழுத்தோலை' என்கிறது. இதை எழுதியவராக அறிமுகமாகும் வேளாளர் பல்லாரி ஸ்ரீகிருஷ்ணன், குடமூக்கு மூலபருடையாருக்காக வலஞ்சுழிக் கோயிலுக்குக் கணக்கு எழுதியவராவார். இவரைக் கரணத்தான் என்றும் கல்வெட்டுச் சுட்டுவதால், கணக்கு எழுதும் தொழிலர், 'கரணத்தார்' என்றும் அழைக்கப்பட்டமை தெளிவாகிறது. http://www.varalaaru.com/Default.asp?articleid=158

Vilakeedu Thirumanam
is an important function for Kaarkaartha Velala Pillai.it is performed by maternal uncle of the girl.He ties
kosumani arond the neck. normally vilakeedu or vilaketru kalyanam does not take place as an exclusive function.it is normally done during the mani vizha of the grand parents or weddings of cousins.

 
Saiva Chettiyar
A branch of Karaikudi Chettiyars or Naattu Kottai Chettiyars who intermarried Saiva Pillai's and remained Vegetarians. Due to the destruction of chettiyar lands around Kaveri poom pattinam due to floods, the Nagarathars or the Chettiyars lost many of their ladies and children. So to continue their life and times, they intermarried with Tirunelveli Saiva Pillais so they came to be following Tirunelveli Vattara vazakku (dialect). Even now the chettiyar families call their grandma as "Aaachi"
-which is a true Tirunelveli dialect.
read about Nattu kottai chetty history here & here too

Saiva Mudaliyar

This is a small branch of Saiva community not much history is known. Intermarriages rare. They too claim SUPERIOR to Saiva Pillai's. God knows!.

The following community are also considered Forward Caste Saiva Vellalars   

Nanjil Nattu Pillai or  Makkal Vazhi Pillaimar or Marumakkal Vazhi Pillaimar
or Marumakkal vazhi Thayathu or Marumakkal Vazhi Thayam
They are from Nagercoil, Tamilnadu-Kerala Border.
They are many Great here too
This article written by Nanjil Ramalingam

Dear Moderator,
  I am not having enough knowledge to describe history
of KK Dist vellalas, but I can try, If any mistakes in my script kindly
tolerate and make it correct. Nanjil Nadan's book explains its
lot. (Nanjil nattu vellalar vazkaium Varalarum) I have a copy in my
native , I will try to send it to u soon.
 
Vellalars are basically tamilans as we all know. Esp. in South Tamilnadu. Before independence The Great Chennai Mahanam's south border ends at Tirunelveli district up to Aralvaimozhi (now in KK dist). remaining is belongs to Thiruvithagore samasthanam. The vellala people ,who were residing at some part of TVL dist ,moved to Tiruvithankur samstanam because of civere drought in TVL.Most Vellalars were scholars at that time so they joined as
officials in samasthanam. Because of their sinceraity their reputation
was high with King. So they got lot of lands for cultivation. But they
were in KK district so some moved to Nanjil nadu (Now Thovalai Thaluk)
for agricultural activities.

 This vellala community was residing at Kerala they followed Thayathu which followed by malalyalis(Nairs). Some followed Makkal vazhi and some Marumakkal vazhi.

In Makkal vazhi
format only sons get rights in father's properties, usual in
Tamilnadu.

But in marumakkal vazhi this was different only girls get
shars in parent's property.So that Marumagan's (Son in Law) were rulers
in a family.Maternal uncle was known as "Karanpadu", he was the family
leader .Father's were not get any reputation from their children.
 
Since Karanapadu rules a family, if he was a evil thinker ,the family
will be uprooted that was happened in many marumakkal vazhi pillaimar
families at that time. So that Kavimani explained all this evil things in
his "Marumakkal vazhi Manmium". So the system was abolished by kerala
government after some time.

But vellalars were divided in these two routes ,later part only few families continue in kerala. Others moved to Thovali and Agastheeswaram Taluks of kanyakumari District. Between Makkal and Marumakkal vazhi pillai mar only some traditions in Marriage, Birth, Death is differed. So they don't have marriage relations with them. Now thesedays inter subcaste marriages were common. So barriers between them started to broke. Since Makkal vali pillaimar follows TVL pillaimars tradition they have some root in TVL, but marumakkal vazhi pillai's lost that.

This is a simple synopsis I will try to add more
in coming days. May this help u to get little knowledge of
Thayathus. These are my opinions .If any corrections from our blood is
most welcome. This is my first effort ur feedback will be helpful for
me. with regards
Ramalingam muthayaram@... Saturday, May 21, 2005 12:54 PM

Thesikar or Desikar
Tanjore district has this caste as a saivaite community not vellalars -but gurukkal
Kurukkalaiya
Tirunelveli side Kurukkalaiya people -mostly vedham reciters
Othuvars or Oduvars or Odhuvars or Oduvar Murthy Pillais or Odhuva moorthy pillais
Panniru Thirumurai Othum vedha vidhwans. again only at Tirunelveli, Tanjore Areas. THEY ARE GREAT SINGERS, PADINIS, HYMN RECITERS!.
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Great Example: Dharumapuram Suvaminatha Pillai Oduvar's Thirumurai, through this we come to know the legend of TAMIL ISAI, TAMIL PANN, and the great hymns of SHIVA worship.
                                     Buy His DEVARAM or THEVARAM Cassettes here
Namathaari Pillai
Vasihnavaite Pillai -Perumal devotees- mostly Tiruneveli side
Seer Karuneegar
Vallalar was a famous Seer Karuneegar. Found mostly in North Arcot, South Arcot, Chengalpat, Chennai
Majority of them are vegetarians [like Vallalar]. They are called as Seer Karuneegar - Saivam.
They wear Poonul, equate them with Brahmins.There are Saratu Karuneegars, Nama Karuneegars also.
In Andhra also Karuneegars are there. Karnam is a Name given to Karuneegars.
Andhra Weight Lifter Karnam Malleswari is also Karuneegar.
There is a magazine for them in Tamilnadu : Karuneega Mithran
There was also a book called Karuneegar Puranam
They believe they are descendants of Chitra Guptha, whose wife is Karnagi Amman.
They follow mainly writer, kanakku pillai, Village Karnam jobs in old times.
related: chitragupta   chitraguptaparivar   kayasthaparivar   seerkaruneegar.org   yahoo groups



GENERAL OUTLOOK OF SAIVA VELLALARS

These Saiva Vellalars are generally orthodox, intelligent, studious, good in maths (so they mostly became Kanakku Pillai's). They are devout Shiva devotees. Panniru Thirumurai is their Vedham.

They were once Jamindhars, Pannaiyar's of the Villages along river bed like Tanjore, Tirunelveli.

During recent era they took largely to Kanakku Pillai, Village Administrative Officers (VAOs) and in to Business due to the Trade bertween Yazhp Panam (Jaffna) and South India. Tobacco and Grocery business was very famously done by these Pillai Community during British Period.

Such was the clout of these people, that one of the community man Va. Voo. Chidambaram Pillai floated a SHIP on to the high seas of Tuticorin. He lost the race with British, but his was one of the major business ambush on the British.

Va. Voo. Si or VOC as he is fondly called, has become a great leader due to his sacrifices in the name on India. He is also called செக்கிழுத்த செம்மல் [Chekiluththa Chemmal] (means the Great man who pulled the Oil press as a Jail punishment in the British Raj, for the sake of Independence of India)


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